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If Walls Could Talk

Surcharging Done Right: Thea Dudley Breaks Down What Contractors Need to Know

By Thea Dudley, Jill Bloom, Executive Director, Walls & Ceilings, John Wyatt, Editor
August 18, 2025

Credit card fees continue to be a pain point for contractors, and the question of whether to pass those costs along to customers is resurfacing in the industry. On a recent “If Walls Could Talk” podcast, W&C’s Jill Bloom sat down with Thea Dudley, CEO of Pocket Protectors and widely known as the industry’s “Credit Overlord,” to break down what contractors should know before implementing surcharges.

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The Right Way to Disclose Surcharges to Customers

Credit card surcharges are becoming more common as processing fees rise, but Thea Dudley stresses they must be implemented legally, transparently, and with advance notice to customers. She advises contractors to phase in changes carefully, avoid surprises at payment, and follow merchant service rules to maintain trust.

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According to Dudley, surcharging is nothing new as it tends to appear in cycles as businesses grapple with the rising cost of credit card transactions. “Everybody gets all bent out of shape about the cost of credit cards,” Dudley explained. “Then we all get in a big hoopla, beat the topic to death, and eventually go back to business as usual without really solving it.”

But with processing fees continuing to rise, more contractors are reconsidering surcharges. Dudley emphasized that surcharging is legal and increasingly common, but only if handled correctly. “You can absolutely surcharge,” she said. “But you can’t just wake up one day and decide to add 5%. That’s where companies get into trouble.”

The key, Dudley explained, is transparency. Customers must be notified in advance, whether through credit applications, proposals, or payment agreements. Surprises at the point of payment can damage trust and even drive customers away. “I shouldn’t be hearing this for the first time when I’m getting ready to pay,” Dudley said. “It’s a lot less painful if you tell me in advance and give me the option to choose another method.”

She also reminded contractors that debit cards cannot be surcharged, since they are treated like cash transactions. And when it comes to setting a surcharge rate, companies are bound by the fees outlined in their merchant services agreements. “You can’t just pick any number out of thin air,” Dudley cautioned.

For contractors considering surcharges, Dudley recommends a phased rollout: announce the change, document it clearly across customer-facing materials, and give clients time to adjust. “It’s courtesy 101,” she said. “Don’t surprise me with anything to do with my money.”

While some customers may push back, many business-to-business clients welcome the flexibility, often using rewards points to offset costs. Ultimately, Dudley’s message is simple: surcharging can be an effective tool—but only when done thoughtfully, legally and with open communication.

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Author thea dudley
With more than 30-plus years of leadership experience in the roofing, insulation and LBM industry, Thea Dudley is a frequent contributor to numerous industry publications, a sought after speaker at industry events, podcasts and virtual learning. She can be reached at theadudley@charter.net.
Jill bloom

Jill Bloom is the innovative Executive Director of Roofing Contractor, Walls & Ceilings, Building Enclosure, Roofing Supply Pro, and the highly regarded Best of Success event. With a deep commitment to advancing the roofing, construction, and building enclosure industries, Jill oversees a robust portfolio of publications, podcasts, and events that empower professionals with knowledge, inspiration, and connections.

Her brands deliver exceptional value across multiple platforms, including:

  • Techos y Más, the Spanish-language newsletter of Roofing Contractor.
  • Safety Advisor, a newsletter focused on critical resources for jobsite safety.
  • Thermal Talk, a newsletter focused on insights and news for the insulation contractor.
  • eRock, a leading newsletter for drywall contractors.
  • The Enclosure Experts podcast, offering architects deep insights into building enclosure technologies.
  • If Walls Could Talk, a podcast dedicated to exploring trends and innovations for the wall and ceiling contractor.
  • The Best of Success Podcast, providing thought leadership and practical advice for roofing professionals.

Jill’s passion for professional development and fostering industry connections is exemplified by the Best of Success event, a premier gathering of contractors, suppliers, and thought leaders for unmatched education and networking.

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John Wyatt is editor of Walls & Ceilings magazine, bringing more than two decades of experience with BNP Media. He joined the company in 2000 as an associate editor, contributing to both Walls & Ceilings and Roofing Contractor before assuming the role of editor in 2008. In addition to his work with the brand, Wyatt collaborates across BNP’s architecture, engineering and construction (A/E/C) portfolio, supporting related publications and initiatives. He can be reached at 248-205-6659 or wyattj@bnpmedia.com.

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