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2025 Credit Risks

Credit Cards, Fraud, and Bankruptcy Insights

Get over the "holiday hangover" with these tips from credit expert Thea Dudley

By Jill Bloom, Executive Director, Walls & Ceilings, Thea Dudley
February 13, 2025

After the holidays, credit managers go through what they call the “holiday hangover,” where people are slow to get back to business, which includes paying out bills, suppliers and contractors alike.

In other words, payment delays are to be expected, including contractors receiving what they’re owed.

If Walls Could Talk Podcast show presented by Walls and Ceilings magazine

2025 Credit Risks

Post-holiday payment delays are hitting contractors hard. The "holiday hangover" impacts bill paying, stretching payment cycles beyond the typical 45 days. In this brief episode, Thea Dudley, the "Credit Overlord," reveals how contractors can navigate cash flow, credit card usage and the rise of automated payment systems.

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“The average contractor gets paid in about 90 days,” said Thea Dudley, CEO of Pocket Protectors. “The normal [days sales outstanding] that you’re shooting for is 45. I like to see below that, but 45 is the national average.”

Also known as the “Credit Overlord,” Dudley took a moment to discuss how these delayed payments are affecting contractors and how they can speed up the process. For instance, due to not collecting payments, contractors are forced to reduce what they would charge for a job just to remain competitive, which impacts cash flow.

On top of it, she said bill paying is becoming more complex, with many general contractors switching to an automated system that requires the subcontractor to use that platform.

“The good news is, if automation is already coming into your space like that, take it to that next step, see what those companies have that you're going to be able to use to collect your money, move to that automation to get your money collected,” she said.

On top of making sure payments arrive on time, Dudley provides insights into credit card usage, cybersecurity and what contractors can expect now that the Trump administration is officially in place.

View the full video here or download the podcast version and listen on the go.

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Jill bloom

Jill Bloom is the innovative Executive Director of Roofing Contractor, Walls & Ceilings, Building Enclosure, Roofing Supply Pro, and the highly regarded Best of Success event. With a deep commitment to advancing the roofing, construction, and building enclosure industries, Jill oversees a robust portfolio of publications, podcasts, and events that empower professionals with knowledge, inspiration, and connections.

Her brands deliver exceptional value across multiple platforms, including:

  • Techos y Más, the Spanish-language newsletter of Roofing Contractor.
  • Safety Advisor, a newsletter focused on critical resources for jobsite safety.
  • Thermal Talk, a newsletter focused on insights and news for the insulation contractor.
  • eRock, a leading newsletter for drywall contractors.
  • The Enclosure Experts podcast, offering architects deep insights into building enclosure technologies.
  • If Walls Could Talk, a podcast dedicated to exploring trends and innovations for the wall and ceiling contractor.
  • The Best of Success Podcast, providing thought leadership and practical advice for roofing professionals.

Jill’s passion for professional development and fostering industry connections is exemplified by the Best of Success event, a premier gathering of contractors, suppliers, and thought leaders for unmatched education and networking.

Author thea dudley
With more than 30-plus years of leadership experience in the roofing, insulation and LBM industry, Thea Dudley is a frequent contributor to numerous industry publications, a sought after speaker at industry events, podcasts and virtual learning. She can be reached at theadudley@charter.net.

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